# Max AI Bot Level OTB **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [January 11, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245 "2025-01-11T21:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RookPhantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@RookPhantom](https://community.playchessup.com/u/RookPhantom)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/1 "2025-01-11T21:46:19Z")
Why does the board only allow us to play up to a level 12 bot? ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.playchessup.com/jeff/32/3_2.png) [@Jeff](https://community.playchessup.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/2 "2025-01-14T01:21:33Z")
The built in hardware is limited in strength. We will be improving this in our March firmware updates. ---
**Author:** ![RookPhantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@RookPhantom](https://community.playchessup.com/u/RookPhantom)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/3 "2025-01-14T12:11:55Z")
I thought if we were connected to WIFI we were using stockfish? ---
**Author:** ![dillontking](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.playchessup.com/dillontking/32/1746_2.png) [@dillontking](https://community.playchessup.com/u/dillontking)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/4 "2025-01-14T14:23:11Z")
As I understand it, the assistance feature will use cloud Stockfish on WiFi, but the onboard bots themselves do not. But you can play against Chesscom bots of all strength levels. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.playchessup.com/jeff/32/3_2.png) [@Jeff](https://community.playchessup.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/5 "2025-01-14T14:32:09Z")
> [@dillontking](#): > > As I understand it, the assistance feature will use cloud Stockfish on WiFi, but the onboard bots themselves do not Correct. And the on board bots are getting replaced with a stronger embedded engine soon. Note - Assistance should be run with WiFi. ---
**Author:** ![Cabra74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Cabra74](https://community.playchessup.com/u/Cabra74)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/6 "2025-01-16T05:59:00Z")
Jeff, I read in another topic about reducing the AI assistance levels (6 to 3) for the CU2. Will this also happen for the CU1 (App/embedded)? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![RetroRanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@RetroRanger](https://community.playchessup.com/u/RetroRanger)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/7 "2025-01-16T10:50:52Z")
Is there any overview what ELO level is matching what bot level? (does not need to be accurate, just a rough indication) ---
**Author:** ![CFossa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@CFossa](https://community.playchessup.com/u/CFossa)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/8 "2025-01-16T11:28:09Z")
Having played a number of games against the built in bots, I’d guestimate that level 12 is not more than ~1200 ELO. So, maybe 100 points per level? ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.playchessup.com/jeff/32/3_2.png) [@Jeff](https://community.playchessup.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/9 "2025-01-16T14:35:24Z")
> [@Cabra74](#): > > Will this also happen for the CU1 (App/embedded)? We actually went back to 6 levels - ChessUp 2 and ChessUp 1 ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.playchessup.com/jeff/32/3_2.png) [@Jeff](https://community.playchessup.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.playchessup.com/t/max-ai-bot-level-otb/2245/10 "2025-01-16T14:36:27Z")
> [@CFossa](#): > > I’d guestimate that level 12 is not more than ~1200 ELO. So, maybe 100 points per level? For the built in bots, yes this is correct. This will be updated soon to go up to 1800~2000. The online bots go up to 3000+